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It is possible to install windows creator update

Discussion in 'NEO Z83-4' started by xixou, May 19, 2017.

  1. David Adami

    David Adami New Member

    I had to look this far into the post to get good instructions.
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  2. aerus

    aerus New Member

    Thank you for the tutorial. It works!
    From what I noticed many settings were dropped after upgrade even language pack and it's still not available.
    So you'll have to re-check everything after update. I made changes to the registry they were also lost.
    But anyway, it works! :)
  3. Kersus

    Kersus New Member

    Thank you. This worked perfectly.
  4. Carrillo24

    Carrillo24 New Member

    Hi! I'm new on this forum. I tried to update my Minix Z83-4 following these instructions, but the procedure failed and so i had to do a clean installation of Windows 10 with a USB drive. Now I have 4 partitions: Partition 1(first recovery partition with 499MB), Partition 2 System EFI with 100MB, Partition 5(second recovery partition with 373MB) and (C: ) with 28,15GB. Why I have two recovery partition now, one with 499MB and the other with 373MB. Is that correct? And where is SYSTEM partition that before the clean installation was with 64MB? Thanks in advance.
  5. brooksa

    brooksa New Member

    After a fresh install from USB you should have 3 partitions;
    • System
    • Windows
    • Recovery
    Are you sure you followed the instructions correctly and deleted ALL partitions during the install?
  6. dezurfer

    dezurfer New Member

    Thanks for this but its complete BS. I sell these boxes & spending to much time with 100% of my customers complaining about this not updating
    MINIX needs to fix this problem ASAP. Why sell us a product with Windows10 & windows10 doesn't run on properly.

    I will be doing this for my customers at no charge and more BS.
  7. duliyariv

    duliyariv New Member

    I have done all these steps, enlarged the EFI partition and the update actually starts, but then the Windows update says that there is not enough disk space for the upgrade (having about 9GB free).
    We have several such MINIX machines installed in various places as video streamers and they are not very accessible, and we cannot put external discs on each machine.
    The big white message from Microsoft, saying that the PC needs an update, or that the update failed is all over the screen, on top of our own content.
    I understand from the Microsoft requirements for Windows 10 Home edition that it is impossible to avoid these updates.
    This actually makes the MINIX machine unusable for us...
    Everything was fine until recently...
    Anyone from MINIX has an idea what can we do?
  8. dezurfer

    dezurfer New Member

    I just tried and made 589MB free space. It didn't work with error code 0xc190020e
    Only thing I have installed is Kodi with no build.
  9. Kebfrf

    Kebfrf New Member

    I followed the steps using minipartition wizard, and now my Z83-4 is stuck on the MINIX screen. Help!

    I've tried resetting, factory reset (which left it not turning on and with a green light instead of blue), and the BIOS reset (holding the reset button down while unplugged) which brought me back to a permanent Minix logo again.

    Has anyone had this problem? Does anyone know what to try next?
  10. Carrillo24

    Carrillo24 New Member

    I tried to do the procedure again and then I understood my mistake. Thanks you very much Brooksa, I solved.
    Do you think that with the clean installation we have definitively solve that update issue for next updates? I want to use SkyGo on my Z83-4 and in Italy you have to "register" your device, so if I want to do another clean installation i will lost the registration.
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  11. SAGB

    SAGB Member

    To retrieve your Windows Product Key, do the following...

    Open Notepad and paste the following code into it (keep word wrap turned off). Then save the file as "WindowsKey.vbs". Double click the file and it should run and give you your Windows Product Key. Keep it in a safe and easily accessible place. If it won't run, make sure there isn't a hidden file extension on it (had that problem saving to the desktop... kept putting .txt on the end and hiding file extensions). This script will allow you to save the license code in a TXT file on your desktop.

    '* Script: Windows Key Information *
    '* Modified By Stephen Bissell     *
    '* Modified On 29/12/2017          *
    Dim strComputer, objWMIService, objItem, Caption, colItems, ProductData, OSVersion, InstallDate, RegisteredUser, ProductID, systemOsType
    Set dtmConvertedDate = CreateObject("WbemScripting.SWbemDateTime")
    strComputer = "."
    Set objWMIService = GetObject("winmgmts:\\" & strComputer & "\root\cimv2")
    Set colItems = objWMIService.ExecQuery("Select * from Win32_OperatingSystem",,48)
    For Each objItem in colItems
        Caption = objItem.Caption
        OSVersion = Trim(objItem.Caption) & " (Build " & objItem.Version & ")"
        dtmConvertedDate.Value = objItem.InstallDate
        InstallDate = dtmConvertedDate.GetVarDate
        RegisteredUser = objItem.RegisteredUser
        ProductID = Trim(objItem.SerialNumber)
    'Find Processor architecture
    Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
    OsType = WshShell.RegRead("HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Environment\PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE")
    If OsType = "x86" then
       systemOsType = "32-bit Operating System"
    elseif OsType = "AMD64" then
       systemOsType = "64-bit Operating System"
    end if
    Function WindowsKey
        Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
        Key = WshShell.RegRead("HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\DigitalProductId")
        Const KeyOffset = 52
        Dim isWin8, Maps, i, j, Current, KeyOutput, Last, keypart1, insert
        'Check if OS is Windows 8
        isWin8 = (Key(66) \ 6) And 1
        Key(66) = (Key(66) And &HF7) Or ((isWin8 And 2) * 4)
        i = 24
        Maps = "BCDFGHJKMPQRTVWXY2346789"
               Current= 0
            j = 14
               Current = Current* 256
               Current = Key(j + KeyOffset) + Current
               Key(j + KeyOffset) = (Current \ 24)
               Current=Current Mod 24
                j = j -1
            Loop While j >= 0
            i = i -1
            KeyOutput = Mid(Maps,Current+ 1, 1) & KeyOutput
            Last = Current
        Loop While i >= 0
        keypart1 = Mid(KeyOutput, 2, Last)
        insert = "N"
        KeyOutput = Replace(KeyOutput, keypart1, keypart1 & insert, 2, 1, 0)
        If Last = 0 Then KeyOutput = insert & KeyOutput
        WindowsKey = Mid(KeyOutput, 1, 5) & "-" & Mid(KeyOutput, 6, 5) & "-" & Mid(KeyOutput, 11, 5) & "-" & Mid(KeyOutput, 16, 5) & "-" & Mid(KeyOutput, 21, 5)
    End Function
    ProductData = OSVersion & vbNewLine & systemOsType & vbNewLine & vbNewLine & "Install Date: " & InstallDate & vbNewLine & "Registered To: " & RegisteredUser & vbNewLine & "Windows PID: " & ProductID & vbNewLine & "Windows Key: " & WindowsKey
    'Show messbox if save to a file
    If vbYes = MsgBox(ProductData  & vblf & vblf & "Click Yes to save this information to a file?", vbYesNo + vbQuestion, "BackUp Windows Product Key Information") then
        Save ProductData
    End If
    'Save data to a file
    Function Save(Data)
      Dim fso, fName, txt,objshell,UserName
      Set objshell = CreateObject("wscript.shell")
      'Get user profile path
      UserProfile = objshell.ExpandEnvironmentStrings("%UserProfile%")
      'Create a text file on desktop
      fName = UserProfile & "\Desktop\" & Caption & " Product Key Info.txt"
      Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
      Set txt = fso.CreateTextFile(fName)
      txt.Writeline Data
    End Function
    Alternatively, you can do this: Open a command prompt as administrator, then paste the following at the prompt and press enter. It will leave a WindowsLicense.txt file on your desktop with the license code.

    wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey > %UserProfile%\Desktop\WindowsLicense.txt
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018
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  12. SAGB

    SAGB Member

    Please put a "Like" on my post :) It will give me points toward being able to post a link.
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  13. William G

    William G New Member

    Hi Minix folks and friends,

    I have the EU version of the Minix . I love(d) this piece of equipment. But as soon as the first big windows update comes in, the sh.t hits the fan.

    I followed all the instructions here: Built my Rufus bootable usb stick. Didn't work because of partition issues. Ended up reformatting the drive for a clean install.
    Made a second bootable usb disk but had to obtain first a bootable partition manager. (Just a note: This MiniTool Free Bootable Partition Manager is NOT for free...)
    Anyway got the windows installer working but it fails to work. After 15 minutes installing the error code 0xc0000374 shows up. So fed up.......

    Now I am NOT a technical savvy PC user and spent over 3 hours with google video's and your instructions to come this far. :cry:

    I am 100% sure that there are many other users with the same problems. They read this forum and will just get more confused when reading all your well meant advises.
    I understand that you put the blame with Windows, which might be true, but why you folks at Minix don't organise a service address for the not so technical savvy users, to send in our box for a reinstall?

    My 150GBP durable high quality, stylish Mini-PC has just morphed in a 150GBP-you-get-what-you-pay-for-disposable-Mini-pc. :(



    P.S. Anyway if there are any UK specialists/shops here who can/would like to service my Minix for a reasonable fee. please open a conversation.:)
  14. brooksa

    brooksa New Member

    If you are doing a fresh install all you need is a USB drive, access to the Internet and some time. No need for a bootable partition manager or to buy anything other than a 5GBP USB Drive.
  15. William G

    William G New Member

    Thx for your advise mate, but please read my post...These are exactly the kind of answers I don't need as you are implying that I didn't read all the posts or followed all the instructions on this forum............. twice......
  16. brooksa

    brooksa New Member

    @William G
    No worries but I did. Perhaps a different USB drive as 0xc0000374 could indicate corruption or perhaps it's the way you created the one you already made.

    Please get a different USB drive and create the install on a different computer. the process should not require a "bootable partition manager".
  17. SAGB

    SAGB Member

    You definitely should not have to use a bootable partition manager. What you need to download is the "Windows 10 Media Creation Tool" ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 ). It will create a bootable USB drive for you. The latest version should also create acceptable partition sizes on its own. You may have to set the boot device order in the CMOS setup (Press DEL on startup - When the MINIX screen comes up, no later.). Remember to change it back when you are finished. Once you have it running make sure you get all your device drivers installed correctly (Check in the device manager for any yellow flags). After that it is a good idea have an SD card that you keep installed in the SD slot. Use it for all of your installed software. Set all the storage locations in Windows to use your D: drive for installations, documents ect. then under "This PC" change the folder locations of all your media folders and document folder to D:. Then uninstall the game apps that you will never use NOTE: If you own it, the latest Microsoft Office does not allow you to choose its install location. It will take about 4GB of space. Choose what components you need wisely) Any programs you install, install to D:. This should help keep room for updates.
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2018
  18. kav2001

    kav2001 New Member


    Correct solution and no need to resize partitions

    (Just from a basic PC knowledge it sounded weird needing to create a 500MB UEFI boot...)
  19. dadorail

    dadorail New Member

    I tried to follow the original instructions for resizing the partition, but I came across the same problem that others had: I had a 'Reserved Partition' that was unmovable so I couldn't expand the 'EFI System partition'.

    As you can see from the image I have compressed the main windows partition 'Data Partition' and created 386M free space to expand the 'EFI System partition' into, but the highlighted partition is fixed and cannot move.

    Reading through the posts some people have deleted this reserved partition (as I was tempted to do) and the computer doesn't boot any more. I found I was able to effectively move the reserved partition using the windows tool 'diskpart' and this then allowed me to expand the EFI System partition.


    Here's what I did to fix it:
    1. Delete the 16M Reserved Partition that is preventing us from expanding the EFI System Partition(we are going to recreate it later)
    2. Now you can expand the EFI System Partition using the free partition wizard. Make sure you leave at least 16M free between the EFI System Partition and the Data Partition though because we need to recreate the Reserved Partition
    3. Make sure you apply the changes you want to make by hitting the 'Apply' button
    4. open a cmd window (hit the windows key, then type 'cmd' and it should highlight cmd, then press enter
    5. I had a play about with diskpart to work out what to do. I just typed help for a list of instructions. To create the reserved partition in the do this
      1. help
      2. list disk
      3. select disk 0 (or the disk number you need to change)
      4. list disk (you should see a '*' next to the disk you need to change)
      5. create partition msr (This is the money shot. msr is 'microsoft reserved partition' and it will create it in the 16M space you have just created.)
    6. Now refresh your partition wizard and you can see it's been created.
  20. kav2001

    kav2001 New Member

    There is NO reason to change partitions in order to upgrade