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Official Release NEO U9-H FW006 (20170810)

Discussion in 'Official Firmwares' started by MINIX - Ken, Aug 14, 2017.

  1. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    Is that all the options you have?
    You should see 4k settings if your receiver supports it. How are you hooked up to your device and then to your TV?
  2. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    If you are using Extended storage with a USB drive card, you may have to do the Zip update, because the OTA failed for me every time. I finally stopped the external storage and went back to normal, as I didn't like the way KODI painted the screens slower. It wasn't bad, it just bothered me. I now have a 64gb microSD card for backups and the 6TB drive for storage. I backup KODI to the SD card and store files on the external drive. I still have more than half the internal storage left and any given time.
  3. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    Did you wait a while or think it may have been stuck. Sometimes on Android devices, the first boot after updating will take a while and may sit, looking like it is locked.
    However if it is truly stuck on the MINIX screen and does not move after 5 minutes or so, I unplug the U9, wait 30 seconds, plug back in and hold the power button in until I see the box starting back up. This will put the U9 into bootloader mode and then I factory reset and try again.
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  4. Runge

    Runge Member

    Yes I have these same options as listed in the screenshot you posted from the "More settings" under "Screen resolution" :)

    I have to admit I have no clue what the difference is for those YCbCr settings but would like to choose the best option for optimal image/video quality.

    My Samsung UE55KS8005 tv (a SUHD 4K and HDR capable tv) is connected via a Yamaha RX-V681 receiver (4K Ultra HD full support, HDR Video including Dolby Vision and Hybrid Log-Gamma, and BT.2020) using HDMI and the Minix is connected to the receiver as well, also using HDMI.
  5. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    With the U9 connected to a 4k receiver you should see a few 4k choices under screen resolution. I have my U9 set to HDMI out Auto in and I choose 4k 60hz under screen resolution for watching 4k movies.
  6. Runge

    Runge Member

    Yes I already have the 4K 60Hz option chosen in the screen resolution, but I'm curious about these new settings under "More settings", the YCbCr ones?
  7. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    YCbCr is component hookup (RGB component cables). Since you are using HDMI you want the 4k 60hz.
    It has been mentioned that 1080p looks better up-scaled on a 4k tv if you leave the U9 set to 1080p and switch the U9 to 4k only for 4k movies. I have tested this extensively and see no difference in picture quality. So I leave my U9 set to 4k. I hope this helps.
  8. Runge

    Runge Member

    Ah I see!

    Thanks for clearing this up :)
  9. WeK05

    WeK05 Audio Visual Master Specialist

    You are mixing things up. All HDMI versions have supported YCbCr and RGB pixel encodings. YCbCr is the digital equivalent of YPbPr. RGB component signal is usually carried in a VGA cable. RGBS can be carried in separate cables like component YPbPr cable. HDMI 2.0 only supports YCbCr encoding for 10/12-bit 4K50/60Hz.
  10. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    I mixed nothing up. Of course they do. I replied in layman terms, so he was connected properly for all formats. But thanks for clearing it up.(y)
    YCbCr Is Digital
    MPEG compression, which is used in DVDs, digital TV and Video CDs, is coded in YCbCr, and digital camcorders (MiniDV, DV, Digital Betacam, etc.) output YCbCr over a digital link such as FireWire or SDI. The ITU-R BT.601 international standard for digital video defines both YCbCr and RGB color spaces.

    YPbPr Is Analog
    YPbPr is the analog counterpart of YCbCr. It uses three cables for connection, whereas YCbCr uses only a single cable (see YPbPr).
  11. WeK05

    WeK05 Audio Visual Master Specialist

    YCbCr 4:4:4 for 1080p, 10-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 for 4K 24/25/30Hz, 10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0 for 4K 50/60Hz.
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  12. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    But wouldn't it not be better to set 4k 60hz? This way you'd have to change settings less often if needed. Even though 4:2:2 is virtually lossless, Samsung recommended my model UN65JS9500 Curved 4k SUHD TV be set at 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 for optimum quality, which I can say it has.
    I tried other settings and they don't display 1080p or 4k movies as clear.
  13. reaklif

    reaklif Member

    SOLVED
    Looks like there was a Samsung update on my telly what made the HDR notification dissapear.

    I have still no HDR passthru on FW005 and also on this new FW006. Before on FW004 i had HDR and it was shown on the TV that a HDR movie is playing.
    I have a minix U9H with HDMI plugged onto a Onkyo NR 646 reciever with a Samsung K7000 SUHD TV.

    all are 10 bit. HDR is set to AUTO. Anyone an idea what is set wrong?
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2017
  14. Runge

    Runge Member

    Thank you, this is the answer I was looking for :)

    But does this mean I'll have to change these settings depending on the video I want to play. I mean there's no auto kinda setting?
  15. WeK05

    WeK05 Audio Visual Master Specialist

    You can leave it at 4K 60Hz 10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0. If you have refresh rate switching turned on, it will automatically change to YCbCr 4:4:4 for all content that is not 4K 50/60fps. You need to select the 1080p resolution only if you feel that your TV is doing a better job in upscaling than the U9H.

    4K 60Hz YCbCr 4:4:4 is only supported at 8-bit. I will have to check whether that is even supported in this new firmware. In the previous firmwares, 4K 50/60Hz was only 8/10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0. I will also have to check whether it will switch to 10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0 from 4K 50/60Hz 8-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 when you play 4K 50/60fps HDR video.

    Edit:
    I checked. You can select 8-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 color space for 4K 50/60Hz in this firmware.

    However, there are issues:
    1) It will not switch to 10-bit YCbCr 4:2:0 when you play 4K 50/60fps HDR video. This is really not much of an issue because there are only few HDR clips that are 50/60fps.

    2) After the first refresh rate switch, color space will default to YCbCr 4:2:0. After this happens, you have to select 4K 50Hz (and then go back to 4K 60Hz) to get back YCbCr 4:4:4.
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2017
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  16. jfc

    jfc New Member

    Can this be confirmed about the boot loaders?

    I am very upset if that is truely the case. I have 4 of these units. I purchased these solely to watch NetFlix.
    It seems very odd that the OS update caused the working Netflix to break.
  17. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    I leave my settings at 4k-60hz and default YCbCr 4:2:0. I see no visible difference, between 4:4:4 and 4:2:0 or 4:2:2, watching any authentic 4k or 1080p movies. This way I don't have to change settings. I also compared the U9 up conversion to the AVR's up Conversion to the TVs Up conversion. There is little to no difference in favor of either one. Thanks(y)
  18. jfc

    jfc New Member

    I have also noticed that when I go to the google play store and try to locate Netflix on the minix u9-h now
    it says it's not compatible with your device.

    What can Minix do to fix this?

    Do it have to do with the key the device was signed with?

    Not being able to install and Netflix on this device anymore is a HUGE problem and disappointment!
  19. MrBig

    MrBig Active Member

    try this latest release:
    https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netflix-inc/netflix/netflix-5-3-1-build-19296-release/
  20. jfc

    jfc New Member