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NEO X8/X8 PLUS/X8-H amplifier/ARC beta

Discussion in 'X8, X8 Plus, X8-H Official Firmware 003' started by MINIX - Ken, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. Kermit

    Kermit New Member

    I used bitcomet to download the file .
  2. laser

    laser New Member

    So will this beta be added to future future over the air updates as I still am having issues once and awhile with no sound coming out of my older pioneer plasma TV...
    When I change from one application to another usually happens until I select and unselect the sound option menu or restart the box..
  3. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken Former MINIX Team Member Administrator

    Your burning tool version is too old.
  4. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken Former MINIX Team Member Administrator

    So far the feedback are all positive,
    of course we shall add it to our standard update if it turns out to be working nicely.
  5. BigArm

    BigArm New Member

    I hope so, as this is really giving me the shitz :(
  6. danfozzy

    danfozzy Member

    No more dropouts here ☺
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2015
  7. fox244243904

    fox244243904 New Member

    Can anybody make a flashable zip (keep data) version of this rom? I wan't to lose my data. thanks
  8. Sydney

    Sydney Member

    USB version please ... I've been holding out since I'd have to dig wires and such out of my entertainment unit in order to move the Minix to where my PC is.
  9. Emanuell Hitardo

    Emanuell Hitardo New Member

    It is an image, as it includes several important files and MINIX - as any brand - does not support root on its devices.
    So, you need to flash the image.
  10. Sydney

    Sydney Member

    I don't want/need root. I just want to flash the image from USB. That was an option before.
  11. Emanuell Hitardo

    Emanuell Hitardo New Member

    You flash a *zip through USB or SD Card, or even on your root folder on some devices.

    An image - like this - has to be flashed through a proper tool developed by the SoC OEM.

    Other ways involve unlocking the bootloader and/or root access.
  12. Tengujin

    Tengujin Member

    Please don't mislead people.
    An image does not have to be flashed with a flashtool exclusively, just as any android ROM (for a phone for example) does not have to be flashed with adb exclusively.

    Flashing via recovery or the minix (aml) update app is a perfectly fine method, and will greatly help people (such as me) who cannot move their boxes to the PC every time they want to update the image.
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2015
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  13. Emanuell Hitardo

    Emanuell Hitardo New Member

    Flashing via recovery is done with a *zip file, and not with an image.

    But, focusing on the matter, I had problems with sound on my Samsung UE42F5000AW.
    But, after the 003FW update via OTA, the sound returned.
    After that I had another minor update.

    Sound is good and clear.
    So, I did not need to flash this image.
  14. hydraSlav

    hydraSlav New Member

  15. WeK05

    WeK05 Audio Visual Master Specialist

    Small dropouts during playback. I don't think there will be any harm (other than losing all your settings/data) in trying out this patched firmware to check whether it can resolve your problem.
  16. Tharn

    Tharn New Member

    Does anyone have a clue when this fix will be released in a regular FOTA update?
    Not really stoked about losing settings if it will be fixed shortly anyways.

    Or any news on a flashable zip? (Having the same issue as Tengujin)
  17. T Wong

    T Wong New Member

    Does not fix it for me. Does not seem to be any change from 003 stock firmware and this patched firmware.

    Did not check out 002, went from 20141224 to 002 to 003 in a single step three days ago, and then to this patch last night.

    To be fair, I am pretty sure it is my TV (old HP MD6580N). I have tried many different cables, currently using the monoprice high bandwidth cables. However none of my other devices hooked into the TV (Sony Blu-ray player, PS3, PS4, XB1) have any problems whatsoever. I am using 1080p/60. I do not think the sound bug comes up if I use 720p settings, but I'm not interested in 720p resolutions.

    In some ways 20141224 was better because the sound stuttered (1/2 second dropouts for 1/4 of second or so continuously) when it happened. With 003 and this current patch I lose sound altogether (like it was muted). Going to minix settings, changing the hdmi resolution and back again (choosing cancel on the new resolution) fixes the sound again, or changing the tv input and going back again resyncs the sound.

    This is a very annoying bug, but if the sound is continuously playing (ie. playing a movie) it never triggers. The sound bug comes back after the unit has been idling for a short time (browsing for movies in XBMC/Netflix or hitting pause and leaving it for a minute or more).

    I did not check off the adaptive sync on the settings yet, but I'll try fiddling around tonight to see what it does to the unit. Sound is PCM.

    I have gone through many many minix boxes (I am basically the minix charmer in my area, people come over and see my box and want it or to a friend's who I've given it to), 2 X7s, 3 X8Hs, 3 X8H-Plus and I have 4 more X8H-Pluses on the way to deploy to various friends and family who see mine and want one. *Every single minix box* has exhibited this problem but to varying degrees (some were worse than others, even with the same firmware - go figure), but every time I have installed it the box at their final location it has never come up.

    Before I used to dread having the audio bug coming up elsewhere but all of my friends have TVs that are unaffected by this bug, and have never reported this issue back to me. FML.
  18. Tengujin

    Tengujin Member

    So you plugged in the X8 directly to the TV without an amplifier in between, right?
    What happens then when you change/disable DTS processing on the X8 and change the output to 2 channel stereo? (if that is possible - haven't checked it myself)
    What happens if you change the output to only PCM, only HDMI, or both?
    What happens if you use a 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 or 2.0 HDMI cable (if you happen to have them of course)
    What happens if you take the X8 to a friend and test the box there? Sound also disappears?

  19. T Wong

    T Wong New Member

    Actually I was going to update my experience with the latest firmware update.

    After updating a whole whack of x8H-Pluses to the latest firmware (without this patch, see the photo), I hooked up my box back up to the TV. I haven't done a full round of testing on it but the problem seems to have been resolved by this patch. It looks like rebooting between the patches didn't fix the issue, but fully unplugging the box and plugging it back in (power, hdmi, etc.) may have fixed the sound problem for me with this patch. 2 days so far and I haven't encountered any sound dropouts ever since unplugging and replugging the box.

    For the sake of completeness though, in case the problem shows up in some other testing, here are the answers to your questions:
    • Yes, the X8 is plugged directly into the TV, but I also had it put through a 5 port HDMI selector box, and also through a Dr. HDMI box with no visible differences.
    • Changing the output to only PCM or HDMI didn't seem to affect the issue for better or for worse (ie. sound bug still happened, and at the same frequency)
    • Not sure which cables adhere to which standards, but I originally used the included HDMI cable and currently have a 10.2Gbps redmere HDMI cable (3' and 6' lengths) from monoprice throughout the HDMI system (for the Minix box direct to TV, and for the 5 into 1 system that has the Xbox and Playstations etc.). Switching cables did not make it any better or worse. Do not know which standards the HDMI cables are compliant to, but the redmere cables are 4k capable.
    • Normally I cycle through Minix boxes, so the one I am using gets pushed through to my friends, so all of them eventually get taken to a friend's house for its final home. In *every* single case, they had all had the sound problem at my house but worked without issue at my friend's houses. This is my 7th box in 2 years, and this particular X8H-Plus will be the first one that won't get cycled out (because I am testing this patch and not a production firmware).
    Keeping my fingers crossed but I think this patch may have fixed my audio issues.

    Edit (March 9): Well, it looks like problem comes back now and then, not as often as it used to, but it does lose audio on occasion during any pause in playback (paused in XBMC, netflix, XMBC home screen or Minix launcher screen). :-(

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    Last edited: Mar 10, 2015
  20. Ravendark

    Ravendark Member

    I was facing problems with desynched sound...
    I installed the patched beta firmware and the XBMC 13.3.3 final2 (http://minix.com.hk/downfile/xbmcminix-armeabi-v7a_13.3.3_final2.apk) and it seems that the "self-adaptive refresh rate switching" doesn't work... regardless of the movie played, the TV's refresh rate stays at 60Hz.

    Anyone had this?

    Sound seems to be ok though