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Poor wifi / ethernet speeds.

Discussion in 'NEO X8-H PLUS 002 firmware' started by Kajukenbo, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. Kajukenbo

    Kajukenbo New Member

    I thought that upgrading to 002 would fix my wifi and ethernet speeds but it didn't. The box is great. It's the most stable android box I've had to date accept for this one issue.
    I have a strong wifi connection but the speed is abismal, not even half of my capability. I should be getting around 22 Mb but only getting about 9. I switched to ethernet and the results were worse.
    I've read that finless bob has fixed this issue in his custom rom.
    Could you guys at minix see what he did in his rom and apply it to the next update?
    I would prefer to run only the official firmware since it is so stable (not one crash yet) but I can't watch YouTube without buffering issues.
    Thanks
  2. akav05

    akav05 Member

    I seem to be having the same issue but I don't think mine is firmware issue. My ISP is UPC Ireland I have 240mbps broadband I recently had my modem changed from a Cisco to a Ubee modem. Speed tests using my Cisco gave me roughly results in the 90'sMbps range, on my laptop it gave me roughly round 205Mbps both through wired connections now using the Ubee modem the results on my laptop are the same but speeds on my neo-X-8H won't go over 40Mbps. I don't know what the issue is, is it related to my X-8H or is something with my modem doing it? I'm stumped and in need of some assistance.
  3. Kajukenbo

    Kajukenbo New Member

    I had the x7 before this and that was 2 years of problems right out of the box. I tried every firmware made for it official and custom. But even though all those firmwares had major issues with my box they all had one thing in common. The wifi was solid on all of them.
    I don't understand why it's an issue here with x8h. I mean isn't the "plus" designation supposed to be for it's greater wifi and ethernet connectivity?
  4. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    You guys got the inaccurate results because you have assumed the test method on a PC is the same on X8-H Plus.
    Plus's Ethernet thoughput is over 700Mbps with no doubt, we are 100% sure about that.
    Wifi has a lot of factors to consider such as router performance, distance, number of devices connecting to the router ...etc., so I am not able to comment.
  5. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    X8-H? Wrong section? Here is about X8-H Plus.
    Their wifi spec are different.
    X8-H is 65Mbps max @n mode while X8-H Plus is 433Mbps max @ac mode,
    both are theorectical figures, in reality they could never be achieved, like the routers'.
  6. Kajukenbo

    Kajukenbo New Member

    I own an X8-H Plus. And it may well have the capability to reach 700Mbps but mine doesn't.
    I may be confused about your statement about the test results. I thought Mbps was a standard of measurement. As far as the method goes, I am using the same method to test the speed of the X8-H Plus as I used for the X7. X7 no problem, X8-H Plus I'm getting less than half the speed. I'm sorry I don't know how to make that any clearer. I'm not the only one experiencing this so to say I just don't know what I'm talking about is rather insulting.
    This speed issue is a real issue, one that finless bob thought nessasary enough to fix in his custom rom as I mentioned in my previous post.
  7. akav05

    akav05 Member

    My apologies Ken for posting in the wrong section, I did not realise until you said it, that the post I replyed to was regarding a x8 plus. I understand that the minix is not going to replicate the speeds of my laptop that is not what I am trying to achieve but if it could reach them speeds that would be great. My issue is that it was reaching the 90's which I was fine with but now not going higher then 40Mbps so I'm jus looking for advice to see if it's a issue with my modem or something I can do to my minix to improve it. The laptop comparison was jus to show that even with the modem switch it's didn't effect my laptop speeds only my minix. I'll move on and try find something helpful in the x8-H forums. Thank you.
  8. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    The Ethernet is definitely capable of going over 700Mbps if you use firmware 002.
    I don't know how you test throughput but we test with iPerf. (We don't use Ookla because it's not measuring true throughput)
    There is nothing to argue about - it's capable is a fact. Our highest test record is 920Mbps.
    By the way, make sure your router is good enough to handle this throughput.
    My testing unit is Linksys WRT1900AC, one of the best routers on earth and it costs more than the X8-H Plus:
    http://www.linksys.com/en-apac/products/routers/WRT1900AC
    I have absolutely no reason to insult you, I am just really clear & confident about its performance, please don't get me wrong.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2015
  9. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    X8-H wifi speed is 65Mbps max. , in reality 40Mbps is good.
  10. akav05

    akav05 Member

    I think u might have misunderstood me, I am only getting 40Mbps through my wired connection. My previous modem was giving me in the 90's through wired so I don't know if it's a setting on the modem that has to be changed or what to do cause I know the X8-H was good for them speeds in the 90s it just won't seem to get them that high now with the new modem.
  11. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    Check your modem then, with Plus I could get 95Mbps out of my 100Mbps optical fibre network.
    P.S. Ookla is not an accurate way to test throughput, I could get 95 sometimes, I could get 20 sometimes.
    The accurate way to test throughput, is using iPerf.exe on a PC, and iPerf.apk on the box, and test between them.

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    Last edited: Jan 19, 2015
  12. yslin7172

    yslin7172 New Member

    Hi Ken and All,

    I don't know exactly what i did on the router as i was "trial and error" with it, and i think after i disable the "Jumbo Frame" on the Asus RT-N66U router on LAN switch setting, the speed went up from "stuck" 32Mbps to >350Mbps download, the Upload has also improved to >80Mbps from the "stuck" 40Mbps. Then i have enabled "Jumbo Frame" again, and I can maintain the speed but occasionally erratic. This has never been a problem for Laptop PC though which consistently obtaining >650Mbps/>450Mbbps download/upload on a 1Gbps fiber optic plan. Some info sharing.
  13. akav05

    akav05 Member

    Yes I have read in previous test that you don't believe the Ookla speed test to be accurate at this time that was the only test I used to check my speeds and I also used it for compassion with the new modem. Would you have a link or any info as to how I can do a speed test through iPref.exe as I am not at all familiar with it? Any help would be great thank you.
  14. kolak

    kolak Member

    Is your PC setup to use Jumbo? I'm not sure of minix does support Jumbo frames.
    In order to have properly working chain all devices must support jumbo frames, otherwise you end up with crap.
    Another thing that jumbo frames may not lead to better performance in some cases. You have to understand what you are turning on.
  15. Kajukenbo

    Kajukenbo New Member

    Ok problem solved. Thanks to Rui Oliveira for his lesson on routers. Apparently I have an old router with wireless G. All that was needed was to change my routers settings from a mixed setting b/g to a g only setting and wham! Full speed. Me so happy. :)
  16. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    Same question... how do you test?
  17. yslin7172

    yslin7172 New Member

    The internet download speed test is measured via Ookla App which you have stated unreliable despite consistent showing on Laptop PC.
    I have tested with iPerf and has proven that hardware is capable of >400Mbps transfer via LAN from Laptop PC to Minix either used it as Server or Client. I'm not able to reach 800Mbps perhaps due to aging hardware.
    Somehow, disabling the Jumbo Frame on the router setting change the behavior on Minix even though not able to sustain equivalent speed as Laptop PC. Enabling it again speed is maintained I'm not sure why. Pinging from Laptop PC to my QNAP NAS TS-220 in the same LAN shows 8990 rather than 9000 on the packet but quite decent and able to register ~50MB/s transfer of 2G movie file. Pinging from PC to Minix for 8990 however causes Minix to "freeze" when failed and have to power off the main socket to power it up again . I tried setting it lower to 2000 and it worked. Raising it further to 3000 it freezes the Minix again. That makes me wonder if firmware has something to do with it. Minix is definitely capable as iPerf has proven.
  18. WeK05

    WeK05 Audio Visual Master Specialist

    Jumbo frames are not going to have an effect on the WAN side. On the LAN side enabling jumbo frames on your router and all devices that support it will result in better LAN throughput. If Minix is freezing on anything higher than 1500, it just means that it doesn't support jumbo frames.
  19. MINIX - Ken

    MINIX - Ken MINIX Team Member Administrator

    Were you trying to write something into the Minix? If yes then the bottleneck would be the write speed of the storage and could cause freezing if it highly exceeded what it is capable of, after all the Android os doesn't have as much buffer cache as the Windows does.
  20. yslin7172

    yslin7172 New Member

    I was just trying to ping "ping -f -l 9000" to test if the device support Jumbo Frame.